Question? Are the different Schambach lines in America closely related?
Answer! Yes, some of them are. Through DNA tests using the Y chromosome, we are now able to determine approximatly how long ago two Schambach men share a common male ancestor and narrow down the number of generations back to that ancestor. The results so far suggest that Adolph of 1729 and George of 1749 are not closely related, at least not through the direct male line. However, later Schambach arrivals have matched George of 1749 which is exciting and allowed us to connect certain families back to Germany.
We currently have ten participants.
Five of the participants are from the line of Adolph Schambach who immigrated in 1729. Four were known to descend from his son George. The fifth also descends from his son George but his ancestry was previously unknown. The DNA results helped narrow down the possiblities. Of the five participants, there is one marker (464c) on two individuals that is different by one number and a different marker (389-2) on another individual whose ancestry was previously unknown. A difference of one number on one marker is an acceptable mutation over 280 years.
Of the other five participants, two are descendants of the two lines of George Schambach who immigrated in 1749. Their results match exactly, re-enforcing our prior research on George's sons. Another participant is a descendant of a Jakob Schambach whose children immigrated in the 1880s and 1890s. His results match the descendants of George on all but two markers (447) and (534). This says that they are closely related. Since we have more information on Jacob's ancestry in Germany, this led us to where to look for more information on the family of George. We think we have narrowed down the possibilities and found the missing link, so to speak. Results for a fourth participant whose name in America was originally Shambeck but later changed to Shamek also places him in this family. His results match the descendants of George on almost all markers. Additional research in Europe will be needed to find a candidate for this immigrant.
The last participant is that of a Shambo family with Canadian connections. Even though it may appear that it closely matches the previous four results, there are at least 3 differences in the first 12 markers meaning that there is only a 17.4% chance that the common male ancester would be within the last 24 generations or at least 600 years. It's possible there is a closer connection but it's more likely the connection goes back to before people started using surnames.
If you would like to participate in this project, more information can be
found at www.familytreedna.com
or you can contact me at
. Any other Shambaugh, Schambach, etc. is more than welcome to
participate. Some of the more recent family lines to immigrate may
be able to connect to either Adolph or George or to each other. If
they do, then we can direct our search in Europe to particular areas.
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DYS#s (D=DNA, Y=Chromosome, S=Segment) |
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Kit |
Family Line |
* H a p l o |
3 9 3 |
3 9 0 |
1 9 |
3 9 1 |
3 8 5 a |
3 8 5 b |
4 2 6 |
3 8 8 |
4 3 9 |
3 8 9 - 1 |
3 9 2 |
3 8 9 - 2 |
4 5 8 |
4 5 9 a |
4 5 9 b |
4 5 5 |
4 5 4 |
4 4 7 |
4 3 7 |
4 4 8 |
4 4 9 |
4 6 4 a |
4 6 4 b |
4 6 4 c |
4 6 4 d |
4 6 0 |
G A T A H 4 |
Y C A I I a |
Y C A I I b |
4 5 6 |
6 0 7 |
5 7 6 |
5 7 0 |
C D Y a |
C D Y b |
4 4 2 |
4 3 8 |
5 3 1 |
5 7 8 |
3 9 5 S 1 a |
3 9 5 S 1 b |
5 9 0 |
5 3 7 |
6 4 1 |
4 7 2 |
4 0 6 S 1 |
5 1 1 |
4 2 5 |
4 1 3 a |
4 1 3 b |
5 5 7 |
5 9 4 |
4 3 6 |
4 9 0 |
5 3 4 |
4 5 0 |
4 4 4 |
4 8 1 |
5 2 0 |
4 4 6 |
6 1 7 |
5 6 8 |
4 8 7 |
5 7 2 |
6 4 0 |
4 9 2 |
5 6 5 |
| 54613 | gr-gr-grandson of John_Shambaugh (1790), George_Shambach_Jr. (1755), Johann_Georg_Schambach (abt 1715), Adolph_Schambach (abt 1690) (Originially unknown ancestry but traced once DNA tests were returned.) |
E1b1b1 | 13 | 23 | 13 | 10 | 16 | 20 | 11 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 11 | 28 | 16 | 9 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 14 | 20 | 31 | 14 | 16 | 17 | 17 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 25712 | gr-gr-grandson of George_Shambaugh (abt 1779), Ludwig_Shambach (1756), Johann_Georg_Schambach (abt 1715), Adolph_Schambach (abt 1690) |
E1b1b1 | 13 | 23 | 13 | 10 | 16 | 20 | 11 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 11 | 28 | 15 | 9 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 14 | 20 | 31 | 14 | 16 | 17 | 17 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 28896 | gr-gr-gr-gr-grandson of John_Philip_Shambaugh (1783), Philip_Shambach (abt 1750), Johann_Georg_Schambach (abt 1715), Adolph_Schambach (abt 1690) |
E1b1b1 | 13 | 23 | 13 | 10 | 16 | 20 | 11 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 11 | 28 | 15 | 9 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 14 | 20 | 31 | 14 | 16 | 17 | 17 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 40903 | gr-gr-gr-grandson of John_Shambaugh (1790), George_Shambach,_Jr. (1755), Johann_Georg_Schambach (abt 1715), Adolph_Schambach (abt 1690) |
E1b1b1 | 13 | 23 | 13 | 10 | 16 | 20 | 11 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 11 | 28 | 15 | 9 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 14 | 20 | 31 | 14 | 16 | 16 | 17 | 9 | 11 | 19 | 21 | 16 | 12 | 18 | 18 | 31 | 34 | 11 | 10 | 10 | 8 | 15 | 15 | 8 | 11 | 10 | 8 | 12 | 10 | 0 | 22 | 24 | 19 | 11 | 12 | 12 | 16 | 7 | 12 | 22 | 18 | 13 | 13 | 12 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 11 | 11 |
| 44742 | gr-gr-grandson of John_George_Shambaugh (1793), George_Shambach,_Jr. (1755), Johann_Georg_Schambach (abt 1715), Adolph_Schambach (abt 1690) |
E1b1b1 | 13 | 23 | 13 | 10 | 16 | 20 | 11 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 11 | 28 | 15 | 9 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 14 | 20 | 31 | 14 | 16 | 16 | 17 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 46046 | gr-grandson of Michael_Shambaugh (1828), Johann_Philip_Shambaugh (1798), George_Schambach_II (1755), Johann_Georg_Schambach (1716) |
R1b1b2 | 13 | 24 | 14 | 10 | 11 | 14 | 13 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 13 | 28 | 18 | 9 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 15 | 19 | 30 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 25711 | gr-grandson of Johannes_Ira_Shambaugh (1837), George_Shambach (1802), Johann_Philip_Schambach (1762), Johann_Georg_Schambach (1716) |
R1b1b2 | 13 | 24 | 14 | 10 | 11 | 14 | 13 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 13 | 28 | 18 | 9 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 15 | 19 | 30 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 11 | 12 | 19 | 23 | 17 | 15 | 17 | 18 | 36 | 42 | 12 | 12 | 11 | 9 | 15 | 16 | 8 | 10 | 10 | 8 | 10 | 10 | 12 | 23 | 23 | 17 | 10 | 12 | 12 | 14 | 8 | 12 | 22 | 20 | 14 | 12 | 11 | 13 | 11 | 11 | 12 | 13 |
| 71478 | gr-grandson of Jakob_Schambach (1843), Tobias_Schambach (1801), Johann_Heinrich_Schambach (1759), Johannes_Schambach (abt 1720), Johann_Petrus_Schambach (1681), Johannes_Hermann_Schambach (1653), Johann_Schambach (1615), Jaeckel_Schambach (abt 1596) |
R1b1b2 | 13 | 24 | 14 | 10 | 11 | 14 | 13 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 13 | 28 | 18 | 9 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 26 | 15 | 19 | 30 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 11 | 12 | 19 | 23 | 17 | 15 | 17 | 18 | 36 | 42 | 12 | 12 | 11 | 9 | 15 | 16 | 8 | 10 | 10 | 8 | 10 | 10 | 12 | 23 | 23 | 17 | 10 | 12 | 12 | 15 | 8 | 12 | 22 | 20 | 14 | 12 | 11 | 13 | 11 | 11 | 12 | 13 |
| 123934 | grandson of Edward Henry Shamek (1869), Franklin Shambeck (abt 1837) |
R1b1b2 | 13 | 24 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 14 | 13 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 13 | 28 | 18 | 9 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 15 | 19 | 30 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 11 | 12 | 19 | 23 | 17 | 15 | 17 | 18 | 36 | 41 | 12 | 12 | 11 | 9 | 15 | 16 | 8 | 10 | 10 | 8 | 10 | 10 | 12 | 23 | 23 | 17 | 10 | 12 | 12 | 15 | 8 | 12 | 22 | 20 | 14 | 12 | 11 | 13 | 11 | 11 | 12 | 13 |
| 89782 | Canadian Shambo descendant | R1b1b2 | 13 | 24 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 14 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 13 | 13 | 29 | 16 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 15 | 19 | 29 | 15 | 16 | 16 | 17 | 11 | 12 | 19 | 23 | 18 | 15 | 17 | 17 | 33 | 39 | 12 | 11 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
*Haplo means Haplogroup which represents what area of the globe that people with this type originated from.
E1b1b1 - This haplogroup probably originiated in eastern Arica and is about
25,000 years old. It expanded into the Mediterranean during
the
Pleistocene Neolithic expansion. It is currently distributed around
the Mediterranean, southen Europe, and in north and east Africa.
Lineages
that do not belong to any of this haplogroup's branches are found mainly
in eastern and southern Africa. (source www.familytreedna.com)
R1b1b2 - Haplogroup R1b is the most common haplogroup in European populations.
It is believed to have expanded throughout Europe as
humans re-colonized after the last glacial maximum 10-12 thousand years ago.
This lineage is also the haplogroup containing the Atlantic
modal haplotype. (source www.familytreedna.com)